Mark here. If you're like I used to be, you're probably sick and tired of running out of interesting topics to talk about with women. You stutter. you stall. There's an awkward silence.
And when you DO think of something else to say, you can't tell if she actually likes you or is just being polite.
It's hard being a guy. It feels impossible to ever know if what you're saying is "right" or not. And often that witty joke that you think is so clever falls flat. And suddenly the girl of your dreams stares at you with a look of disgust...
It can be embarrassing.
I've been there. The women rolling their eyes at me, not calling me back, telling me that they have to go when they actually don't, or even worse, telling me we should just be friends. In the meantime, you stand there so frustrated -- it makes you want to puke.
You probably know what I'm talking about.
It's as if the words you actually say don't even matter some times -- like there's some unspoken truth to attraction in the air that women can see, a few guys can see, but you can't.
Three Tricks to Set You Free
For the last five years, I've approached and spoken to literally thousands of women. I've dated over 100 and coached and consulted with over 200 men on their love lives. And time after time, the ONE FACTOR that separated "the best" with women from "the rest," was this seemingly unspoken rule in conversation.
It's often referred to as "frame control," "dominance," "social value" or other technical terms.
Some men just naturally seem to "get it." But most of us have to learn it from scratch. And until now, it's been VERY hard to learn because there's no clear-cut way to measure it.
But I've come up with three simple "tricks" to conversation to make sure you're ALWAYS being abundantly attractive in your interactions.
If you apply these tricks. You're set. In fact, I have to warn you, using these tricks will often create such strong reactions in women, you may not actually be prepared for them.
Trick #1: "Who Cares More?"
In every conversation you have with a woman -- be it text, phone, on a date -- ask yourself, "Who cares more about this conversation right now?" If the answer is you, you lose. If it's her, she's attracted to you. Simple as that.
Think about it and try it. The person who cares more is the person who is more invested. The person who is more invested is the one who values the other the most. As we all know, women look for men who are of HIGHER value than themselves.
Or to look at it another way... if she isn't more interested in talking to you than you are, why would she ever be more interested in sleeping with you?
Next time you approach woman, apply this game. Ask yourself, "How can I get her to care more than me in the shortest amount of time?" It's tricky and not always easy.
But it works.
And it's ALWAYS a good rule of thumb to know where you are with a woman.
Not sure if she's into you or not? Ask yourself, "Who cares more? Me or her?" If it's you (and be honest), then she's just not going to be into it.
Trick #1 In Action:
You: "I had a crazy weekend this weekend."
Her: "Oh, cool..."
You: "No, not cool... if I never see the back of a cop car again, it'll be too soon."
Her: "Wait, What?!?"
You: "I can't talk about it now. Will call you tomorrow. Gotta go soon."
Her: "Wait, no, tell me!"
You: "Don't know if I should talk about it. My lawyer might get mad... Besides, what's the craziest thing you've ever done?"
As you can see here, by simply teasing her by witholding information and then challenging her on it, you've suddenly gotten her to invest more effort into the conversation. What would initially be a boring, "What I did this weekend," conversation has suddenly become exciting and challenging for her. She suddenly cares a lot more than you do.
BTW: You don't need to have a legit arrest story to do this (actually, I hope you don't). You can just say something like, "Yeah, my friend Maria dressed up as a cop and spanked me all night... You thought I was serious?" Again, challenging her, teasing her, and getting her to care more about the conversation than you.
Trick #2: Dictate the Topic
Here's another litmus test to find out who is more attracted to whom in any conversation (hint: it should always be her). Ask yourself, "Who is dictating the topic?"
And I don't mean like, "she wanted to talk about dogs, I want to talk about cats, so we talk about cats." I mean the perspective of what's being talked about.
She can bring up her dogs, but if you are determining HOW you're talking about the dogs, or exactly WHAT you're talking about involving the dogs, then you're dictating the topic.
What I'm about to say is totally not politically correct, and probably something you won't want to believe.
But WOMEN WANT A MAN who tells them what to think or how to view a particular topic. This doesn't mean she can't have her own thoughts and ideas, but it means she wants YOU to decide what is being talked about.
See, one of the BIGGEST traps that guys fall into is that they sit there and agree with anything and everything a woman will talk about.
They'll sit there passively and let her go on and on about her problems, her work, her mom and how she's angry at her hair stylist for this and that, blah, blah, blah...
If she's dictating the topic and how you're talking about things, then you're done. You're friend zoned. You have no chance.
Sorry.
Take control. Add your perspective. Dictate where the conversation's going. Dare her to follow you and she will.
Trick #2 In Action:
Her: "I don't like New York. The people here are too caught up in themselves and being trendy."
You: "You think so? Where all have you been out?"
Her: "Oh, I don't know... I just hate the meat-market vibe."
You: "I've been going out in New York for years and I completely disagree. You probably aren't hitting the right places... Or maybe you've just got the wrong attitude about it."
Her: "No, but I see these bars with people--"
You: "Yeah, but how often do you go?"
Her: "...not a lot I guess."
You: "You should get out more, you'd be surprised, most people are pretty cool. You never know who you're going to meet."
When a woman complains, most men's instinct is to instantly agree with her and hear her out -- they go into what I call "therapist mode." Look, it's great to be a good listener, but don't be a door mat either.
In the above example, not only does the guy call her out on her bullshit (remember, who cares about the conversation more?), but he directs the topic away from her complaints and onto the idea that you never know who you're going to meet when you go out.
Trick #3: Get Her To Laugh At Herself
Make this into a challenge: get a woman to laugh at herself. If you can make a woman laugh at herself, then it's game over. You win.
Seriously, I dare you to prove to me that this doesn't work, because it DOES. If you can make her laugh at herself, she will be attracted to you, 100% of the time.
Get a woman to laugh at herself by teasing her, bantering with her, playing with her, and you're golden. It demonstrates so many attractive qualities about a man, I don't even know where to begin.
But I'll just say, before I got into this stuff -- back when I was terrible with women -- I was always a funny guy. But my humor was very self-deprecating. I was a goofball. I'd clown around and make fun of myself to get reactions and get laughs from everyone.
I made a LOT of girls laugh, but unfortunately none of them wanted to date me. They all just wanted to be friends. It was a torturous and lonely way to live.
But one day I decided to turn it around. I thought, it's time to make them laugh at themselves! Sure, I offended a couple of women here and there.
But all in all, the results were a COMPLETE 180. Women didn't know what to do with me. They were kind of mad, but couldn't stop laughing, and kind of turned on at the same time. The mix of emotions created a MASSIVE amount of sexual tension in no time.
"Who is this guy who says this stuff to me and thinks he can get away with it?"
Before I knew it, I had women practically throwing their phone numbers at me. The results were so drastic, that I almost didn't even know what to do with them.
Trick #3 In Action:
You: "I don't think I've ever seen a woman be so proper and mannerly at dinner."
Her:
"Yes, I mind my manners."
You: "Well, that needs to stop. If you get any more proper I'm going to throw the salsa on you."
Her: *laughs* "No!"
You: "Seriously, were you raised by nuns?"
Her: *laughs*
You: "That's it, next date is a food fight."
Her: *laughs*
The art of teasing is a delicate balance between insult and humor. If you're too mean, you become a jackass (but then again, that would make her care more, wouldn't it?). But if you're too funny, it's a one-way-ticket to the friend zone.
The moral here is to use your wit and humor to challenge her. Give her a hard time. Believe it or not, this is considered 10 times more "charming" that simply making her laugh at the world around her. Make her laugh at herself, and suddenly you charmed the pants off of her.
I know... Women...
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I regularly receive hundreds of emails every week from men asking for dating advice. Coaching and helping guys like you has been a passion and full-time job of mine for years now. About two years ago, on a hunch, I asked guys to send in transcripts of their real life conversations with women.
I wanted to get a clearer picture of what was ACTUALLY going on with so many men who were struggling.
Well, to be honest, there was A LOT that needed fixing -- guys blowing chances left and right, making asses of themselves, being too "try hard," and acting like wimps. It was pretty dreadful.
So I took it upon myself to comb through their conversations line by line, explaining what they were doing right, what they were doing wrong, and what I would have done instead.
I called them "Conversation Demolitions" and posted them on one of my websites. They were an instant hit and my inbox soon flooded. I had literally dozens of conversations and over 200 pages to sift through.
Shit... this is going to take FOREVER, I thought.
But I did it. And none of these men's lives weren't the same afterward:
Here's Some Of What They Learned:
4 immediate conversational turn-offs and how to avoid them -- commiting any of these conversational crimes might as well be attraction suicide with women.
My two main techniques to keep conversations going as long as you want without straining to memorize anything.
Why women send mixed signals and what you can do to figure out what the hell they really mean.
The single biggest mistake that over 90% of guys make in text and email conversations with women (and it's so obvious once you know it).
The "test" to know if she likes you sexually or if she's just being polite. No more confusion.
The quickest way to get a woman to agree to go out on a date. It's almost a matter of using this one common word.
How to create deep, lasting attraction in a woman, even when she has a boyfriend.
The difference between being funny and flirty and just being an asshole. You'd be amazed how many men aren't aware of which one they are. Are you?
8 key signals to pick up on when a woman is attracted to you. Never be in the dark again.
The Tell All sign that she WANTS YOU NOW and how to not miss it (it's painful to watch as one guy just plain doesn't "get it," when she was all over him).
2 situations where you must ALWAYS tease a woman, or else lose her respect and affection.
I cover text conversations, email conversations, phone calls, and in-person conversations, and how they all differ.
And much more...
Check out the following short excerpt from one of the demolitions:
Conversation Demolition Excerpt
Him: What has little balls and screws old ladies?
I like this. Starting off with a playful joke with obvious sexual undertones, this has a lot of potential. Great opening text message.
Her (12 hours later):Hey I never got the end of the joke. I have been living in suspense for the past 12 hours!
Him: Lol. Hmm, should I keep you in suspense longer or give you the punchline...
Her: PUNCHLINE!
So far, so good. She complies (although belatedly... shit happens, it's text) and asks for the punchline. You throw in a little bit of hoop theory and make her almost beg for the punchline. She complies AGAIN! At this point, you need to reward her for her compliance and give it to her. She's jumped through enough hoops, if you make her jump through another one, she might...
Him: Nah, I think I'd like to keep you on the edge of your seat a little longer yeah, that'll be way more fun
Her: Haha thanks. This better be a good joke!
...start challenging your frame. Whereas if you had dropped the punchline earlier, it would have been funny, spiked attraction and created a sexual conversation thread, you've now created a challenging frame where you're holding out on her and no matter when you give the punchline, it's not going to be nearly as funny.
Him: It's terrible. But I want you to laugh as hard as you can at it when I finally give it to you!
Here's where you start losing it. You're becoming attached to the outcome and her reaction to your joke. You're quickly killing any chance for this joke to be funny and definitely killing any chance of it spiking attraction.
Her: I will do what I can.
You're lucky this girl is nice. :)
Her (one hour later): Wait. Its BINGO!
And tenacious. Looks like she knows how to use google. Strangely enough, you should take this as an IOI. As much as you botched your clever joke, this chick was still curious enough (or bored enough) to sit around and figure it out or hop on a computer and look it up. I guess you could call this "implied compliance," because the actions she WOULD HAVE TO TAKE to make this statement sub-communicate compliance to you.
Him: Hahahaha. Yeah! Nice work. You should get some sort of prize but I don't know what.
Right idea, but bad execution. You're a man. You ALWAYS know what the fuck you're doing, got it? I would reword this to say, "Hahaha. Yeah! Nice work. You should get a prize for being so damn clever." This would elicit her to say, "Oh! What's the prize!?! Which can easily be converted to either a phone call or day 2. Instead, you don't come out and make any sort of strong statement, and what happens when men don't make strong statements?
Her: A bingo card perhaps?
They lose their dominance.
Him: Boring! Besides, I don't have one
This just plain miscalibrated. Let's do a little recap. You botched a good joke, didn't reward her for her compliance, and then struggled with your "prize" flirtation. Right here she's basically TRYING to save your ass by giving you an idea. What do you do? You shut her down outright, killing her thread. Dude, she's throwing you a life preserver and you basically say, "No thanks, I can swim to shore."
Her: Then my prize shall be nothing.
And that's what you end up with... nothing.
All in all, I ended up writing out OVER 100 PAGES worth of analysis like that above. Text conversations, email exchanges, phone calls, and more.
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